Thanks to all for the above great information. I’m deciding between the Fire 8 or Fire 10. My questions are,
is there any noticeable differences in the display quality between the 2,
is the additional gig a ram on the 8 plus of any value over the 8 or 10,
is the jump to 64 GB of any value
Thanks in advance for any input.
I liked my 7th gen 10" tablet as the wall mounted dashboard simply because of the size, and the performance was better than the 8" one at that time as well. (I haven’t compared the performance between the newer 10" and 8" plus yet.) If your main goal is just for the dashboard then the storage size doesn’t matter much.
Is that an old Iris WiFi smart plug I see on the lower left side of your desk?
My wife got some of the Fire HD 8+ for our kids. I ‘borrowed’ them to play around with SharpTools on them and they seemed to work well. Much more performant than the older Fire HD 8 devices - still not the fastest devices, but an excellent bang for the buck.
I don’t know if the extra gig of RAM is really necessary for dashboards, but the wireless charging dock is nice and would make for a nice countertop display.
Hey guys, I just ordered a Fire 10 and wikibuy found me one on Ebay for 129.99 delivered saving me about 30 over Amazon. Seller has very high rating and product is new in sealed packaging.
Is your Fire HD 10 Laggy at all when you switch to different dashboards?
My tablet doesn’t navigate as fast a my laptop, but not laggy much to bother me. It would take a second to complete the transition on my tablet, where it is almost instant on my laptop. If you experienced some dashboard performance issue, the first thing you should check is if you have lots of the 1x1 space tile, and merge multiple 1x1 space tiles into less but larger tiles wherever possible to reduce the total number of tiles in the dahsboard.
Yes. It is laggy on every panel. Mine is 7th gen HD 10. I am actually searching for the beat option that is not an iPad. I can’t bring myself to paying for an iPad just to hang it on a wall…
By any chance have you tried sharp tools on various tablets, including the iPad? The iPad is lightning fast. I want a tablet that is nearly as smooth. The fired HD 10 was adequate two years ago, but it is way too slow today. I believe it is 100% RAM related, but I don’t have any tools to verify the memory consumption of the JavaScript / CSS. I am of the opinion that the JavaScript library being used simply consumes more memory than the browsers on the HD 10 are capable of supporting.
If you have used other options and know of any tablets that are at least twice as fast, if not faster, than the HD10, I would appreciate learning which.
Yes, we test against a variety of devices including a range of models and generations tablets. Fire tablets tend to be popular devices due to the price point, so we do test against a variety of models and generations. As you noted, some of the more premium devices like iPads and modern Samsung Galaxy tabs tend to be much more performant, but at a higher price point.
Unfortunately it’s not a simple recommendation as to the ‘best’ device. Another thing to note is that it’s not always as simple as device specifications alone - Amazon tends to update the OS of their newer generation devices. These OS updates often come with improvements to the browser and built-in webview which bring with them optimizations to how they handle modern webapps like SharpTools.
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I’d also note that we are actively looking at improving the performance of transitions between dashboards. Nothing to announce at the moment, but it’s on our radar. 
I’m using both Fire tables. One is a Fire 7 and the other is a Fire 10. I’d have to say that the 7 is slower then the 10, but the hardware is vastly different between them both so that is understandable. I did notice one thing that was equally slow between them was if you have a hyper link to open Dakboard and then go back to sharptools its takes a while to reload the sharptools page. I’m not sure if that is due to something internal [network speed or WAN speed]
Has anyone tried using the Dixieland 10" tablet from Best Buy?
Currently a nexus 7 (2012) lineage rom(having issues with it) and a Smasung SM-T510.
I ordered a Lenovo 8" Tab M8 32GB Tablet (2nd Gen) for $75 (normaly $89 on B&H Photo). According the versus.com, this tablet is 4x faster than the Fire HD 10. It’s powered by Android 9, so it’s only one OS version behind. It only has 2GB RAM, which is the same as the Fire HD 10, so this should tell me if the CPU is the issue, or if it is resource constrained by RAM.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in that. The latest generation Fire HD 10 is an 8 core processor at 2.0 GHz each. The Lenovo M8 HD is a 4 core processor at 2.0 GHz each. Even that doesn’t tell you much though - an equivalent set of benchmarks would be better.
According to Amazon:
Fire Hd 10, 9th gen (2019 model) is a MediaTek MT8183 (64- but octa-core) which is powered by 4xARM Cortex-A73, 4xARM Cortex-A53 both at 2GhHz, and still with 2 GB RAM. Unfortunately, it uses a 32 bit ABI.
The Geekbench 4 score for that device is 1402 single core vs 5446 multi core
The Lenovo I ordered (to replace the 7th gen Fire Hd 10) is powered by a MediaTek Helio A22 which is 4xARM Cortex-A53.
By all aspects of the specs, the 2109 Fire HD 10 should be faster. But both should be substantially faster than my 7th gen HD 10. Reports from the field is that the 9th gen feels only marginally faster than the 7th gen. I don’t want marginally faster, I want smooth. And so I am trying alternatives. The Lenovo’s CPU is has half the cores and is 2.5 years older, but the cores it has are the same as 50% of the Fire and 10’s cores, and the Lenovo has a faster memory bus. For a tablet that is under $100 it will be an interesting test.
If I were buying a general purpose tablet, I think the Fire HD 10 as I like the Fire OS. But for a wall panel, I have hopes this will be a better value. If this fails, I am considering a custom order 8-core tablet with 3GB RAM running at just over 2GHz.
So the Lenovo is much faster, for everything that I do, but in SharpTools, the performance is not any better than the Fire HD 10 (7th gen). Given Amazon only claims 30% improvement for the 9th gen, I cannot bring myself to purchase it, as 30% is not enough improvement.
The latest Fire OS has improved performance considerably. I would say the UI performance for SharpTools has doubled. Everything is faster. If you haven’t updated FireOS I recommend it.
Any thoughts on much larger touchscreens? I have two 15" ELO touchscreens mounted in-wall that I am looking to replace. They are max res of 1024x768 and require Windows XP running for them to work! Have had them for 10+ years but it is time for them to go. They are flush mounted in two high traffic areas in the house and currently running Allonis MyServer. I plan to replace them and move to Sharptools. They are 4x3 but I wouldn’t mine going to 16x9. Could drive the new touchscreens from a PI or a NUC. Just looking for the right hardware and open to ideas.
iPad Pro is all that comes to mind. Either that or a tablet PC as you have, but more modern Maybe?
