Feature Request - Needy Dude Always Wants More More More


#1

Josh,

Had my thought of effort been put towards enabling a Thing to have multiple icons based on status. The most obvious example is a door sensor showing open or closed. My OCD goes into overdrive when the door is closed, it’s the right color for being closed, and everything is gray except the icon is an open door. I tried it the other day, using a closed door icon. Oddly enough the same thing happens in reverse, which I didn’t predict!! I think that’d up the game.

Also, my next suggestion may violate a core principle that I can totally see you living by. Whilst this violates the KISS principle, it Keep It Simple Sebastián (not sure who that is), has any thoughts of adding different textures or shadowing options for the tiles, maybe get a little 3D appearance action going? How’s bout simple animations for actions?

Again, I suspect you’ve avoided all of these ‘features’ for the simple reason that adding such things does nothing for functionality, introduces additional and unnecessary potential points of failure, and it would almost certainly reduce reliability in favor of aesthetics, and that’s what fools do. But I figure it’s worth asking about!!!

Pete


#2

It’s on the list. We’ve been thinking about a concept of icon pairs, where some icons would have a matching icon for ‘active’ and ‘default’ states.

Can you clarify what you mean by textures? We’ve been looking at some options for modifying or removing the shadow depth (there’s a slight shadow by default) and adding in semi transparent tiles. Similarly, do you have some specific animation suggestions / examples?

We appreciate the feedback! If anything it’s just a matter of prioritizing the most requested and widest impact features, so it’s really helpful to see these posted on the community so we can see what kind of traction they get from the community as a whole so we know how to prioritize!


#3

So as far as the textures go, and minimal animations, It would be easier to show then explain. However I’m currently on my new Amazon Fire 10 (Based on your recommendation!) and would be able to show you what I’m thinking about in PowerPoint. I not thinking about anything over the top gaudy, just buttons that respond to being selected like a redhead who just got picked not last in Middle School dodge ball in gym (I am one, thus I’m allowed to self deprecate). Let me go find a link real quick. Thanks to the magic of the Interwebs, it’ll seem like I never left, like that one Black Mirror episode where th…nevermind, I need to stay focused. brb.

And I’m back!!! See, seemed like ½ second to you, didn’t it? OK, so here’s sorta what I’m thinking, something simple, yet pleasing to the eye. I have an example, but it touches on another, sort of unrelated feature I think would add some more bad-assery points. It’d be cool if for complex devices like my Ecobee 4, there is a scaleable tile which includes only as many variables will fit for the size I choose. So if I go small and choose 1X1, it’ll have room for the logo and maybe temp, or mode, whichever attribute is important to me. For every increase in tile size, I get more real estate to add additional attributes to. The idea is that the tile that has the limited data is supplying the user with what they feel is important to them. Now here’s the kicker, and again, this is really only something needed for complex devices. There will be those times when I’ve got a touch of the Chilli con Carne (Literally translates to Beans with meat, however is used colloquially amongst my peer group to alert others that they are cold), and I’ll need all the functionality of the Ecobee 4. In my mind’s eye, when I tap on that small Ecobee tile, it opens an Ecobee 4 virtual device above the dashboard, and does so with rad animation. Does that make sense? I could see it being used for security cameras, Smart Locks, TV remote emulators, or anything that is complex, feature rich, but a user doesn’t necessarily want taking up the entire dashboard.

I understand that this is currently accomplished through the use of multiple dashboards, but the Ecobee tile right now is pretty feature lean. That’s probably because watching me try and do this is probably like watching Helen Keller in a fistfight with another Helen Keller. A lot of wild arm movements and noise. Let me know if my idea isn’t coming across clearly, and I’ll give it another go. I do, however has some good news to that point.

I’ve found a website chock full of these aesthetically pleasing button animations I’m thinking about. As far as the texture thing, simple stuff like in PowerPoint where it makes the buttons look metal or embossed. Here’s the link:

Like I think I’ve said before a few times, coding, HTML, website design, talking to pretty women, all thinks that exceed my available bandwidth. So I have no idea if those buttons are like the anti-matter to the coding you use, the matter, and thus if combined would tear open time-space fabric and destroy what we know as reality, but they do represent a few examples (obviousy excluding the hover wiggles thing they are all very proud of).

now the next thing I’m throwing out there is sort of a pie in the sky thing, and while it seems a little bit outside the SharpTools branding, if you ever decide to execute a strategic pivot with the UI, mannnn I vote for this (image attached). This is the type of setup that I would never have a chance in heck of coming up on my own out of the blue, but when I see it, the sheer efficiency of the design and beyond intuitive UI is just pleasing to the eye. If you do decide that it’s ever time to offer something for those who respond to pictures and don’t read er right to goods, mannnn, not exactly this, but in the same spirit!

Man Josh, I’m trusting you not to read into this recommendation as a slight on the awesome work you guys have done. I know ya won’t, but just want to make sure! Again, if I’m making no sense, let me know, and I dig further into my nonsensical hole of brevity-bashing!!


#4

Josh,

Does the fact that you and James ‘hearted’ this post mean that the Sharptools Skunk Works development division is going to have this as an option someday??? :smiley:

I mean, I DO brag about how responsive you are to the needs and requests of customers! In the utopian reality in my Imagination-Land, it doesn’t replace what Sharptools is today. They compliment each other and functionally are heavily integrated as a system…

And that’s all I’m willing to tell you guys about my Imagination-Land, thank you very much!


#5

Thanks for following up and thanks again for the specific examples and all the awesome ideas!

The idea of responsive / adaptive tiles is really cool. And I like the idea of mini tiles that summarize key info and allow you to quickly access a more rich featureset.

I do fear opening the space-time continuum, but that hasn’t stopped anyone else before, right?! Really though, I totally dig the ideas and the examples. One of the key factors in prioritizing what we work on is user-demand, so it’s helpful hear directly from you guys so we have a feeling of what’s important to the community.

Thanks again for all your support!